i thought these were somewhat interesting. the first hand doesn't lend itself to a ton of analysis, but i'm planning to look at the second spot more closely in another post soon.
Hand #1: all players to the flop are regs.
beatis ($204)
i4ni ($206)
MAC_GUYVER1 ($103)
iamengaged ($305)
FaramirTFK ($40)
humanblue ($214)
beatis posts (SB) $1
i4ni posts (BB) $2
Dealt to beatis Qc Kc
fold,
iamengaged raises to $6
fold,
humanblue calls $6
beatis calls $5
i4ni calls $4
FLOP ($24) 4s 8s 3c
beatis bets $19
i4ni calls $19
iamengaged folds
humanblue calls $19
TURN ($81) 4s 8s 3c Ac
beatis bets $54...
Hand #2: button is 25/16/4, fold/raise v. cbet = 53/12% on flop and 43/20% on turn.
NickMelville ($228)
Lambo81x ($44.70)
beatis ($204)
juxxo ($266)
carokille ($194)
NickMelville posts (SB) $1
Lambo81x posts (BB) $2
Dealt to beatis Kh Jd
beatis raises to $6
fold,
carokille calls $6
fold, fold,
FLOP ($15) Jc 2c 4h
beatis bets $10
carokille calls $10
TURN ($35) Jc 2c 4h Ah
beatis???
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ReplyDeleteI just discovered your blog. Really cool.
ReplyDeleteI'm not a particularly good player, but here are my thoughts on both hands:
Hand 1: Isn't donking this board kind of problematic? It's a sorta-wet board against late-position callers. In a 4-way pot, so as I read it, what you're representing here is a strong-but-vulnerable hand, or a good draw. So either a set, or two-pairs, or two spades or a 56. Maybe even an overpair. I don't know how you usually play, but when I have the range you're representing, I would actually check and hope someone bets so I can call or more likely raise. So if I was playing this hand against you, your donk bet actually probably means a draw or air, meaning that I call with any hand that has nice equity against a set, and maybe with some more. Now the turn doesn't seem to help your potential draw, and you 2nd barrel? If I was playing against you in this hand, your line would look fishy. I'd still mostly fold against your turn bet, but I would call or shove with a bunch of hands that beat you or some good draws. The aggression might still be +EV, but it's weird to me. I realize you have some outs, but I think you're getting shoved here by better hands, and have 18-30% equity so might be forced to fold.
Personally I like 3-betting with KQs (or even with KQo), especially from the blinds against late-position raisers + callers. If an ace flops you can rep it, and if a K or Q flops you likely have the best hand (barring some strong resistance). So, overall, you're happy with more than 50% of the flops -- pretty sweet.
Hand 2: It's tricky, but I think I'd 2nd-barrel. If you check, presumably you're going to call a reasonable-sized bet on the turn if villain makes one, but you're giving him the power to decide. Furthermore, you're setting yourself up for a shitty situation on the river: he might make a big bet and then you need to decide if he has an ace or not. If you bet here, I don't think you're getting better hands to fold, but you might get draws to fold, plus you're getting called by some worse hands, and furthermore, when you check the river, it'd be much harder for the opponent to make a strong bet against you if he has, say, a weak ace. On the other hand, checking here is a form of pot-control plus inducing bluffs. Overall, I would 2nd-barrel and then check the river (unless you improve). If the river is a brick, do I call a big river bet? Probably not. But I'll be happier making a turn bet and then folding to a big bet on the river, than I'd be calling a turn bet and then folding to a big bet on the river: in the first case he usually has it, and in the second I'm getting bluffed a fair bit of the time but still have to fold.